The Browns and The Bees
While scanning through Sitemeter, I noticed we were getting hits from a Trinidad & Tobago discussion forum, and that one of my posts was referenced on their website:
OK, pretty accurate but for one thing – I am not Indian!
Anyhow, being still a teenager when writing that post a year ago, I was likely a bit immature and hasty in drawing inferences. Upon reflection (and with the erudition that comes with age) the paucity of notable East Asian writers is likely more a function of lessened English colonial influence than an innate lack of verbal ability as the guy who commented last to that post pointed out.
Funny that bees are mentioned, because the National Geographic Bee was held in Washington DC a few days ago, and the winner was a 12-year old kid by the name Bobby Jain, an Illinois boy of Indian origin. Remarkably, so were both runner-ups and 6 of the 10 finalists!
So what’s with the geeky brown kids and Bees anyhow? IMO to do well in these contests, all it takes is a lot of discipline, a keen memory, and autocratic parents. And I know (from experience) that brown parents like to show off their kids a lot; a Bee is an apt way to showcase their kid's superior mental prowess before a wide, captive audience, and I could see why these super-despotic parents pressure their kids into performing well at these Bees.
In my mind, the kids that win the Bees are nothing more than idiot savants - all you’re being asked to do is memorize and regurgitate; does this require any thinking? I would define intelligence as the ability to learn and assimilate new concepts quickly, and the ability to draw links and relationships between (seemingly independent) concepts. True, knowledge is a key component of smartness – one who is ignorant cannot profess to be smart, because one needs a vast repository of knowledge to draw upon when formulating an argument, advancing your view etc., and knowing things like history and geography can improve your understanding of why things are they way they are. But knowing how to spell super-obscure words and memorizing all the capitals, lakes, rivers, deserts, and mountains of the world isn’t very useful nor very applicable.
[OK, I may be bitter be because I took part in a spelling bee once, when I was 11. I didn't get very far though - I mispelled the word "skittish" - but it wasn't my fault! The proctor had pronounced it skiddish, which is the way I had erroneously and phonetically spelled it (thinking it was a derivative of the word skid) and I recall the Asian girl after me got it correct because he had altered the pronounciation to the correct one for her... son of a &$@! I don't think I'll ever get over that. My 9-year old bro got to 4th place though.]
Smiley and I were thinking of checking out Akeelah and the Bee (though we cracked that it should be called Sanjay and the Bee.) I've a feeling this movie will be a lot like the incredibly moving Searching for Bobby Fischer (I've a bias towards films about child prodigies). Also the Scripps National Spelling Bee is on ABC on Thursday at 8. Exciting stuff.
- ... Anyways relating to your last post, here's one by some blogger that might make you feel warm.
http://125columbia.blogspot.com/2005/08/spellbound.html
The blogger writes starts with the phenomenal success of Indian kids in spelling bees in the US, explaining what he thinks enables them to be so talented, then describes further Indian success in literature and politics, contrasting them with the East Asians relative paucity in those areas. Neil Bissoondath, a writer of Trinidadian background is mentioned here. Of course, keep in mind this blogger is Indian so his writing is obviously slanted.
OK, pretty accurate but for one thing – I am not Indian!
Anyhow, being still a teenager when writing that post a year ago, I was likely a bit immature and hasty in drawing inferences. Upon reflection (and with the erudition that comes with age) the paucity of notable East Asian writers is likely more a function of lessened English colonial influence than an innate lack of verbal ability as the guy who commented last to that post pointed out.
Funny that bees are mentioned, because the National Geographic Bee was held in Washington DC a few days ago, and the winner was a 12-year old kid by the name Bobby Jain, an Illinois boy of Indian origin. Remarkably, so were both runner-ups and 6 of the 10 finalists!
So what’s with the geeky brown kids and Bees anyhow? IMO to do well in these contests, all it takes is a lot of discipline, a keen memory, and autocratic parents. And I know (from experience) that brown parents like to show off their kids a lot; a Bee is an apt way to showcase their kid's superior mental prowess before a wide, captive audience, and I could see why these super-despotic parents pressure their kids into performing well at these Bees.
In my mind, the kids that win the Bees are nothing more than idiot savants - all you’re being asked to do is memorize and regurgitate; does this require any thinking? I would define intelligence as the ability to learn and assimilate new concepts quickly, and the ability to draw links and relationships between (seemingly independent) concepts. True, knowledge is a key component of smartness – one who is ignorant cannot profess to be smart, because one needs a vast repository of knowledge to draw upon when formulating an argument, advancing your view etc., and knowing things like history and geography can improve your understanding of why things are they way they are. But knowing how to spell super-obscure words and memorizing all the capitals, lakes, rivers, deserts, and mountains of the world isn’t very useful nor very applicable.
[OK, I may be bitter be because I took part in a spelling bee once, when I was 11. I didn't get very far though - I mispelled the word "skittish" - but it wasn't my fault! The proctor had pronounced it skiddish, which is the way I had erroneously and phonetically spelled it (thinking it was a derivative of the word skid) and I recall the Asian girl after me got it correct because he had altered the pronounciation to the correct one for her... son of a &$@! I don't think I'll ever get over that. My 9-year old bro got to 4th place though.]
Smiley and I were thinking of checking out Akeelah and the Bee (though we cracked that it should be called Sanjay and the Bee.) I've a feeling this movie will be a lot like the incredibly moving Searching for Bobby Fischer (I've a bias towards films about child prodigies). Also the Scripps National Spelling Bee is on ABC on Thursday at 8. Exciting stuff.

8 Comments:
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Anonymous
Trinis, even those of Indian descent, can't differentiate between Indians, Sri Lankans, and others from the subcontinent. This is mostly because most people were born in Trinidad, and few actually remain that are natives of the Indian subcontinent. The ones that do remain tend to marry into local "Indians" with the result that the children are indistinguishable save for unusually long surnames or parents with funny accents.
5/28/2006 03:55:00 PMSpelling bees aren't big in Trinidad anyway. Only one was ever held, in 1999. And according to your theories, that particular bee was somewhat anomalous.
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Sen
Wow... a Canadian from Edmonton, Finola Hackett finished 2nd in the Spelling Bee last night.
6/02/2006 03:08:00 PMHer undoing? "Weltschmerz"!
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Tristan
Sen,
6/04/2006 01:43:00 PMDo you think intelligence only comes in one form? memorizing a series of 'strings'? It sounds to me that you think "Brown People" are more intelligent then others in terms of spelling...
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Sen
I don't think so, I think there are different components to inteligence. I think they do disproportionately well because they have crazy parents!
6/04/2006 02:52:00 PMIt's hard for me to believe that a 12-year old would derive enjoyment from memorizing large words in a dictionary day after day after day. (I think these kids do it as a result of parental pressure more than anything...) Then again, there's a sense of challenge and kind of a problem-solving aspect to it, and a sense of satisfaction from spelling a really difficult word that one has never seen before right, and perhaps some kids with with IQs 3 standard deviations above the mean - who love intellectual challenges - find pleasure in this.
Then again, perhaps there IS a bit of intelligence involved in the form of pattern recognition. Sometimes you can spell a word that's totally alien to you just from knowing the definition and etymological derivation of the word (Latin, Greek, German etc.) and if your neurons can process all that and make a connection between all of those things and spell a word you have never seen before correct, that's impressive.
That said, I don't think spelling bees are a true measure of intelligence - I think it's more a guage of your memory, drilling, and (here's a word you love) how fascist your parents are!
Geography Bees on the other hand... that's pure memory.
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Tristan
LOL
6/05/2006 02:10:00 AMI believe Intel takes it shape in many forms.
But I wont go into that list now as its 2 in the morning and I am super tired
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Sen
Yikes - I spelled intelligence wrong.
6/05/2006 10:35:00 AMAll the more ironic given that I was writing about spelling!
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CP
Hello Sen
7/02/2006 09:03:00 PMI posted that forum message linking to your spelling bee post and I also left you a comment under that post.
I apologise for mistaking you for an "Indian", I should have used South Asian. (Are you Sri Lankan?) I do indeed know there are many different subcontinent peoples both in terms of countries and ethnicites eg. India-(Punjabi, Bengali etc.), Sri Lankan- (Tamil, Sinhalese). I think at that time I was mentally lazy so I just wrote Indian.
Anyways I understand where you were coming from and I'm glad you understood my comment as well.
Anyways, nice blog you and your friends have here. Take care.
theout
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Anonymous
Just came across this post, and it rings true to me. Intelligence is not the same thing as knowledge. To some degree, they are complementary - but not substitutes. Simply memorizing Greek and Latin roots does not a smart person make.
5/29/2008 08:04:00 PMI know some people that did fairly well in the spelling Bees and they haven't gone on to do anything exceptional, or even to attend top 10 colleges. Though there is some role for intelligence in the Bee, it is mostly linked to memorization, at the drumbeat of crazy parents.
When I become a parent, even if I am a "crazy" one, I wouldn't push my kids towards this stuff. Why not steer them towards something that involves creativity (like a science project) or writing acumen (like a research or philosophy paper)?
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